Filling a new 'flooded' battery, initializing it
properly; other battery types, sources & usage;
battery chargers (SMART and not!)
and their peculiarities.
Includes how to load-test your motorcycle battery.
AND: Charging voltages, another viewpoint.
©
Copyright, 2011, R. Fleischer
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FLOODED batteries:
A "flooded" battery has removable cell covers,
contains liquid you can see if any cell cover is removed,
sometimes you can see through the case to see the liquid, and you have to add water occasionally.
Water type should be distilled or purified, NEVER EVER tap water.
Flooded batteries are often shipped dry, and therefore need to be properly
filled with acid electrolyte in the
initialization process. Sometimes these batteries are advertised as
"pre-charged", which is very misleading. There are several
problems involved with the purchase, initialization, and use of a
brand-new flooded battery.
NOTE: There are some other
types of batteries, by SOME manufacturer's, that are NOT 'flooded' types, that
you DO add liquid to. A particular version of Yuasa's Valve Regulated Battery (VRLA) is such a
type...but you add the ELECTROLYTE only ONCE, then you seal the holes.
That type is not specifically treated in this article; but is
very similar in initialization and charging, etc.
If initialization is not done correctly, your
flooded battery will NEVER
reach its full capacity; AND, will be very likely to have a
shortened
life.
It is important that gas bubbles be eliminated
during the initialization period and a full and complete soaking of the internal
parts accomplished.
NOTE that, in general, the old-fashioned flooded
batteries are the LONGEST LASTING batteries, assuming they were properly made,
and intialized.
Flooded batteries can be extremely
dangerous. The hydrogen gas given off by a
battery can cause an explosion. Acid can blind you. Do NOT
take this lightly. Wear goggles. Have a container of water
available. Note that even sealed batteries can be dangerous, if
grossly hugely overcharged and allowed to get quite hot.
The conventional flooded battery, with or
without sealed battery chemistry, MUST be charged regularly, or
kept on a maintenance charger, more often in warm weather.
Tongue-in-cheek (somewhat!) scenarios regarding flooded batteries:
Scenario #1: Battery or motorcycle dealer fills the fresh (or OLD!...and OLD is particularly bad here if the cell tops were not originally or left sealed against outside air, which contains moisture!) "dry" battery with sulfuric acid electrolyte (one can hope of the correct strength...German's use a stronger electrolyte), and possibly charges it once, maybe not, and sticks it on the shelf for sale. The battery begins to deteriorate from that moment on. The battery deteriorates especially fast if acid is installed and the battery NOT properly "initiated". The battery sits there deteriorating, awaiting YOU the customer. YOU walk in, and YOU need a new battery RIGHT NOW. Your battery may already have lost a lot of capacity, and may already have a vastly decreased life.
Scenario #2: The dealer fills the battery while you wait, installs the battery, and you start your engine and you are happy and off you go down the highway. Such a battery has not properly absorbed the acid, will have bubbles as well as dry places at the plates ...all create hot spots and chemical problem areas, and your new battery will NOT have 100% of its plate areas initialized chemically nor electrically. That battery will NOT last nearly as long as it should, certainly NOT give proper long life; nor will it operate to its rated capacity and performance. This type of battery often fails at low temperatures rather early in its hoped-for life.
Scenario #3: The dealer fills a fresh battery
(with no PRIOR air exposure since the cells WERE still capped and sealed) with acid
mixture, initializes it in the way explained later in this article, and
then connects it permanently to a Smart Charger on his shelf,
whilst awaiting your purchase. The
dealer sells these shelf batteries within a few months.
Congratulations!
Scenario #4: You purchase a battery at
a Wal-Mart or similar. It might even fit with the correct
terminal types, polarity, and size. YOU fill it with the acid that comes with
it. You are aware of the initializing needed from this article you are
reading, as the instructions that come with the battery are hardly complete in
this regard. BUT....IF that battery has no side vent; fumes are released UPwards.
You find your seat, etc., rotted out, sometime later...ugggh!
What about if you have electronics of some sort near that
battery? Have you talked to Wal-Mart about how their battery WARRANTY works?....you may
decide not to purchase batteries from Wal-Mart. Do you know
that if you return a failed battery in, let us say, 3 or 4
months, that the return $ allotment is VERY skimpy?
Did you even think to check the Wal-Mart (or other source) policy
on bad battery returns?
Scenario #5: You do Scenario #4, but fail to notice that the battery has the + and - terminals on the wrong side. You return to the store with the battery, and find that batteries are covered not by exchange, but by an allowance, and you lose some of the $ you paid for it yesterday. Or, you monkey with the leads on your bike 'to make it fit'.
Scenario #6: Back at Scenario #5 again..... you return the battery as 'defective', and get you money back 100%....or, an exchange with the correct terminal placement. This exchange battery also has no vent tube, and your seat rots out 3 years later. YMMV
Scenario
#7: You get the correct battery, with correct
venting via an overflow and vent tube, initialize it
yourself in the
correct way, and probably get a long life from it.
Battery types in common
use:
Flooded batteries are made in two basic formulations. One
type contains calcium in the plates. A calcium containing battery
generally has a slower self discharge, and can be a low or no maintenance
type.
There are sealed batteries of
several types
available, besides conventional flooded batteries. The
conventional flooded battery with or
without sealed battery chemistry
MUST be charged regularly, or kept on a maintenance charger, more often
in warm weather.
The absorbed mat sealed battery, often called AGM, and now often called a VRLA (valve
regulated...), the most popular brand is Panasonic (at one
time these were re-labeled as WestCo when sold by WestCo), are
sold by many places. VRLA batteries have very
low internal leakage and are shipped from the
manufacturer fully charged, and probably will be OK on a dealers shelf for 6
months or so, unless the dealership battery storage area is quite hot.
Yuasa makes such a battery, shipped withOUT acid; as was noted
well above. Another popular brand is the Enersys-Odyssey,
sold as a premium product, and available with a metal case on
special order (and, worth it, it is less heat sensitive, the
battery will last longer).
WestCo may have stopped selling rebranded Panasonic batteries. In at least one size, the battery is a relabeled "BB" brand. In the past, one could remove the WestCo label and see the Panasonic label. The Panasonic brand is well-made (I have taken them apart, not an easy job), not sure about others.
ALL the various types of lead-acid batteries, whether sealed, gel, lead-calcium, lead-antimony, VRLA, AGM, etc., have somewhat differing charge, discharge, float, self-discharge, temperature... and other characteristics.
Things to know:
The higher the ambient
temperature,
the faster the self-discharge, and more need for re-charging. This
can be critical for flooded batteries, which self-discharge rapidly in the
Summer. VRLA batteries are MUCH slower to self-discharge, although the
self-discharge rate increases as the batteries age.
Some manufacturer's do NOT furnish the really important
specifications when promoting and selling their products. Some, on
purpose, try to cleverly avoid such information as Cold Cranking Amperes (CCA),
by using other terms, that are of no importance,
or even meaningless.
BMW is phasing out flooded batteries (not all) and has what they call a Gel battery
(NOT all gel batteries are the same!!!!), which requires, per BMW, a special type of Smart
Charger. All the various parameters of this battery and its TRUE charging
requirements, settings of the bike voltage regulator, its TRUE expected
lifetime, failure modes, etc......are not yet known accurately enough for me to
make good commentary here. NOTE that BMW started this phasing out,
and then re-instituted at least one size of old-fashioned flooded
battery. BMW K bikes with ABS-2 are susceptible to
ABS self-check problems with some batteries. Some BMW K bikes will
fry or weld a relay contact with a low or deteriorated battery.
The following is the PROPER way to fill & initialize a flooded battery (this type will have, after filling, visible liquid in it):
1. Put the battery on your workbench, floor, wherever (concrete floor problems are an old wive's tales stemming from wooden battery case days). Put your safety goggles on. Fill the cells to the upper fluid level mark on the battery using the acid mixture provided. Install the cell cover(s). Let the battery stand maybe 4 or more ours, up to 6 or 8 hours...to settle in...and because the acid installation causes some heat (worse in hot weather), you wish to also let the battery cool down. Some battery manufacturer's will say 1 hour minimum; that's not enough time in my opinion. During this ~half-day period, occasionally shake/rock the battery to get the bubbles out. I do this by rocking the battery back and forth, giving it a bit of a 'knock' on the table/etc.
2. At the end of the selected time, top off the battery cells again, to the same upper fluid level mark, using the ACID mixture. Install the cell covers. NOTE that this is likely the LAST time you will EVER add acid mixture to the battery....but, don't throw the acid out as sometimes a battery may require topping up after being fully charged and after it then sits overnight.
3. After the above step 2, if and when the battery is at or below baby bottle (luke-warm) temperature, THEN you may start charging it. Connect the battery leads carefully to the charger, and THEN plug in the charger, this is to avoid sparks. This is especially critical during the time the cell caps are off. so be SURE the cell covers were replaced before playing with chargers. Wear goggles anyway. NEVER connect or disconnect a battery charger unless its power plug is unplugged from the wall socket first....that HELPS avoids sparks...SOME chargers can have a tiny spark when connected even if the charger is not plugged-in, so be careful! Have the cell caps in place when playing with the charger or other wiring!
4. The rate for initial charging of a
new
battery is a maximum of 10% of the battery ampere-hour capacity. If you
have a 28 ampere-hour battery, that means 2.8 amperes. I
do not recommend small chargers rated below 1-1/2 amperes for
initialization, although if that is all you have, use it. On a
practical basis, you will likely be able to use as high as even a RATED 6 to even 10 ampere
car-type charger, so long as its meter-indicated charge does not exceed about 15% of
ampere-hours rating for a FEW minutes before the charge rate
hopefully tapers down.
In any event, discontinue charging if the
battery warms up much beyond a bit over luke-warm, and then restart charging
after the battery cools down. Some of
the small ''wall wart'' chargers (small black box chargers that plug directly
into the wall receptacle) will have internal circuit breakers that will constantly cycle on and
off during initialization of SOME types of new batteries; and that can burn
out these wall units. DO NOT use a
charger rated at 6 amperes or more if you have not let the battery absorb the acid mixture and
have not let the battery sit for some hours after that. If
using 6 ampere or more rated charger, do not let the charge rate
exceed 15% of rated battery Ampere-Hours....see item 4, above.
Note:
When a dry battery has acid mixture first put into it, the battery
will automatically gain a certain 'charge'. This is the
'dry-charged battery' effect. For most batteries, that
charge is close to 80%, if the battery was properly filled and let
stand for some hours. If you put the
battery into immediate use on a motorcycle, you
MAY be charging the battery at a too high rate from your
alternator; or, may be discharging it, if
you have a bike with many lights or poor alternator output, and so
on. I strongly advise to NOT put a new battery, of ANY kind,
into service until you charge it fully. For
a typical battery, that means that the terminal voltage, battery not mounted in your
bike, but on the workbench, AFTER charging, and AFTER letting it sit for an hour
or so with charger turned off or disconnected, will be 12.6 to 12.7 or
even a slight bit higher. 12.5 is marginally acceptable. The terminal voltage reached
DURING charging; whilst important, and whilst it will be much much higher than
those voltages...., is NOT the best criteria for when the battery has reached 100% of
charge. If, however, the battery has been charged at
a low rate (10% of AH or less) for a long period of time, and the
voltage has risen to close to 14 (up to 14.9 on some
types)...then the battery is likely fully charged. A more accurate indication is the battery voltage 2 hours
after being disconnected from the charger (and NO load of any kind, not even
your bike's clock, on the battery).
5. The amount of time necessary to charge a
battery, considering chemical inefficiencies, CAN BE AS LONG AS, but not
necessarily is, in hours, the rating
of the battery divided by the AVERAGE charging rate, plus as much as 50%.
I have seen it even longer with constantly cycling wal-wart chargers. The
new-fangled, and pricier Smart Chargers (lots of brands) are very
nice, and can be left turned on for extremely long periods (years).
NOTE!....a MAJORITY of all the smart chargers I have seen have LITTLE TO NO temperature compensation; or, not
enough. Because of this, many do not initialize a battery well, nor
maintain it well, particularly in cold weather. These smart chargers
SEEM to be set for a compromise voltage. Frankly, I prefer
initialization of a new battery using a common type of NON-smart charger, and
where you WILL monitor the temperature and voltage of the battery.
I suggest that you MONITOR the new battery for temperature of the
case (by feel is OK), just to be sure it is not overheating, and MONITOR the battery terminal voltage with an accurate meter now and
then. The battery terminal voltage will slowly rise as the battery
charges. This rise can be quite non-linear too. That
is, it is possible for a rapid small increase, and then hardly
any increase for long periods of time, until the battery finally
reaches full charge and PERHAPS then spikes in voltage. The speed of
voltage rise, and the voltage reached after many hours, is
dependent on the internal characteristics of your charger, and the type of
battery. It takes a
MINIMUM of 12.8 volts at the battery, for a
LONG time, to fully
charge a battery; but this is NOT the same as initialization! In general
12.8 is NOT nearly high enough to ensure a properly
initialized battery....and the voltage should be considerably higher,
near 14+-.
Speaking of both the flooded and Absorbed Mat batteries here,
the maximum initializing is 13.8 volts, per many books. In
truth, up to 15 volts can be used, and for the AGM batteries,
14.7 at 25°C is really optimum!....IS
BETTER, if the
charging current is modest. There is an official
sweet spot, per the books, at 13.2-13.5 for FLOODED batteries. You might as well disregard
that, I find it WRONG for initial charging. Reasonable for warmer climates for
the maintenance mode on a smart charger. All that being said, good and well with
manufacturer's, you are, on a practical basis, going to initially charge the new
battery up
higher in voltage than that, particularly with a NON Smart Charger.
I am placing this information early-on in this article, on purpose. Battery voltages for charging are typically for 25°C temperatures, that is the same as 77°F. Battery charging is controversial, with manufacturer's selling their own chargers that are touted as very special (some are), ETC. For flooded batteries, no matter the calcium chemistry of the plates or not, when re-charging, it is a good idea to charge to at least 14.3 volts, and 14.5 is good. I'd not go much higher. Then, float charge can be in the 13.8 area. Flooded batteries are quite tolerant. For AGM/VRLA/ABS such as Panasonic, WestCo, Odyssey, I recommend (for the very longest life) that the charger be capable of half the A-H capacity of the battery. Most won't have that powerful a charger, but you will only loose a bit of life if you do not. Charge to 14.7 volts, and then float/maintain at 13.6 volts. You can disconnect the charger if you want to, after the charge is at 14.7 and the current is maybe 100 ma. But, this is not easy to determine for most of you, and there is the complexity of NON-smart chargers having a higher actual voltage, which is needed to actually do charging, and thus my recommendation for non-smart charging is to charge to 14.7 and then turn off the charger.
For the nerdy, you can calculate the change in
the 14.7 value, for other temperatures. If the temperature
is COLDER, the voltage INcreases.
The calculation is 24 millivolts per degree Centigrade.
Later in this article will be lots more about voltage/charging.
If your battery is a flooded type with removable cell top plugs, you are going to look,
now and then, inside the cells
(no
sparks, wear safety goggles).
I HIGHLY RECOMMEND that if you do that, you
UNPLUG the charger from the WALL, first, as a safety measure, to
avoid sparks. After some hours
(usually), the new flooded
battery voltage will
begin to rise close to 14 volts and the cells will have many small bubbles
starting to rise; depending on the charging current. The higher the charging rate, the more the
bubbles. You may not see bubbles if the charging current is quite
low; and, it may not happen for some time. This is now a good time to keep under that 10% rule. After an hour or two of these bubbles rising, ALL THE
CELLS SHOULD BE 'gassing' at about the same rate. The amount of gassing is
current dependent. More current, more gassing. It may well be
very difficult to see ANY gassing if your charging current is 1/4th or
even 1.0 ampere, and you do not have to see gassing/bubbles. Your eyeball,
with those
goggles on for safety!! will easily notice if the bubbling
is happening, that it is about the same in all cells, if the
current is high enough (say 10% of capacity, as previously mentioned). Be patient. Do NOT move the wires,
causing sparks.
With sealed batteries you won't be looking for
bubbles, but you WILL be monitoring the terminal voltage. The exact point at which you stop the charging is not
critical. I recommend between 14 and 15 volts,
AND this varies with battery
construction/materials. Smart Chargers may not allow that
much; which is why I like NON-smart chargers for initializing and
first charging.
****When all cells are gassing (flooded type battery ), and the voltage is perhaps 14.4 at room temperature (closer to 14.9 at 50°F or a bit colder) the battery is fully charged. You can remove the charger, and let it sit an hour or two, THEN recheck the terminal voltage (accurately, please!), in line with that 12.6-12.7 volts or more, that I mentioned earlier.
For some batteries the gassing point might be reached a bit lower, or a bit higher. Do NOT let
ANY battery type get over
15.0 volts at room temperature. Do not let the battery get
very much over baby bottle temperature. If the
current is low, and you can't see gassing, use the voltage
measurement. Conversely, if the bubbling is quite evident,
and you are only at 14.4 volts, and the bubbling is the same in
all cells, the battery is LIKELY fully-enough charged if the current is
low, perhaps one-half ampere to as much as two amperes, depending
on your charger. Smart chargers are NOT in this category!
""The new BMW Gel batteries have special charging voltage
requirements""...maybe not! Ask about the latest recommendations. Some chargers
won't work well with them.
Whilst THAT is the official line, I have not
found it so, in practice.
See later in this article
for some more practical advice on various types of batteries, and
charging/float voltages....and see a few paragraphs above for
some information too.
6. Unplug the charger from the wall and THEN disconnect
the charger from the battery. This helps avoids sparks.
Sparks are VERY dangerous, around flooded batteries in particular.
****For a flooded battery, as you are charging, shake and
rock the battery some to dislodge more bubbles. After fully
charging, let the battery sit a few
hours and repeat the shake and rocking. At this point, if the
battery fluid level is not at the upper line, equally, make it so with more acid
mixture. You will LIKELY NEVER AGAIN add acid, only water.
7. For a flooded type battery, or a 'fill-it' type of AGM, etc., you can now install the battery into the motorcycle. Mechanically (sandpaper?) clean the wires before attaching them TIGHTLY to the battery. Be sure the wires are oriented to avoid shorts and sparks. It is a good idea to purchase some of the goop in a tube (NCP2 or equivalent) and coat the entire POSITIVE (+) terminal, and + wires metal ends, AFTER assembly;...and, if the insulation is so-so, force some into the wire/insulation junction. Use an old hardware store 'acid brush' or toothbrush suitably modified for this application. It is NOT necessary to goop the negative terminal area. It is OK to use clear silicone grease for this or common Vaseline. The best is the special anti-corrosion grease stuff for batteries, it contains anti-corrosives, and does not depend on just the grease barrier.
8. Monitor the BATTERY voltage AT the
battery!....start
the bike, and as soon as the cylinders have some warmth, increase rpm,
watching the voltage. Allow a minute or two, depending on how much you used
the starter motor. If it does not
reach 13.7 MINIMUM (and 14.5 MAXIMUM (although 14.9 is OK on the sealed
batteries at cold temperatures) as the rpm gets higher and higher (might
take 4000-5000 rpm depending on the lights, etc. you have), then you have a
problem with the charging system or excessive loads of your bike, which needs looking in
to. The voltage regulator should NOT be hot from a previously
run engine for this test, unless you allow for that temperature effect (lowers
the voltage). The VR in K bikes is internal to the
alternator, so you can't check its temperature by feel...but the
alternator case is good enough.
For your information, it is typical for a BMW Airhead FAIRING
voltmeter, to read approximately 0.2-0.5 v. lower than
an accurate digital meter at the battery itself. If over .35 volt you may want to check the
fairing voltmeter calibration, and if it is OK, then check for resistance at
various contacts, relays, and connections, beginning with the ignition switch
and small starter relay under the tank.
On BMW Airheads, poor grounding connection at the diode board can cause charging problems...especially with the HORRIBLE rubber mounts and grounding wires needed with those rubber mounts. I STRONGLY suggest changing the mounts to aftermarket metal ones. There are certain models that can have timing chest to engine problems with painted touching surfaces, etc. Lots more on this on this website.
9. If you store your bike for the winter, removing the
battery is usually not necessary, so long as you keep it charged. A fully
charged battery will not freeze in typical, even quite cold temperatures, 50
below zero or more. If the
bike is stored in quite sub-freezing temperatures, and won't be recharged or
used with a smart charger, you probably should remove it from
the bike. The colder the battery, the less often it requires
recharging. A small trickle charger is fine every month or so (so is a Smart Charger you
leave connected and plugged in all the time).
The WestCo/Panasonic/Digikey, etc.
batteries:
You can purchase sealed batteries, which come fully
charged, from WestCo....or you can purchase them fully charged from Digi-key,
and numerous other sources, many brands of them these days. I can no longer advise on where to purchase batteries, only
give some hints on places to check.....as battery prices exploded upwards in
2008, and $$$ are all over the place. BEWARE, if you want a GENUINE
Panasonic battery, that Chinese, etc., 'replicas' are on the market.
Watch the wording in the advertisements. Note that the Panasonic large
battery is 28 AH, and one replica I saw was 26 AH...not that 2 AH in itself
makes much difference.
WestCo PROBABLY is no longer relabeling Panasonic batteries with its own brand name...keep that in mind when you read what follows.
The 28 AH Panasonic brand battery is 6.5" x 4.9" x 6.9", and 3 POUNDS heavier than the
flooded Mareg (of 28 or 30 AH). Float voltage is OK at 13.5. Float voltage is NOT the bike system voltage under alternator
charging...it is a floating voltage for long term storage, or after overnight SmartCharger use, with the SmartCharger still connected and powered.
There are two posts available on the genuine Panasonic battery, the suffix is AP and P, don't worry too much about that.
For those interested in 'P and AP', the WestCo-Panasonic battery always was the vertical threaded (5 mm I think)
stainless steel post...which is quite a bit stronger than you think it is. Panasonic
sells both that type and also sells the more
conventional post. From an engineering standpoint, I'd prefer a fatter vertical post, but
the SS post is fine. The more conventional motorcycle type post is my
first choice; and, I prefer them such that the holes are facing
fore and aft when the battery is installed in the motorcycle.
Clean and shiny are the bywords for connections to the battery and
elsewhere's, as voltage drops make the regulator screw up, or create other problems.
There is a small difference in the maximum height, as measured at the case
top on one, terminals stick up a wee amount on the other. In every
instance I know of, either fits all bikes OK...but minor modifications have been
necessary SOMEtimes to avoid tool-tray involvement on Airheads. These may be as simple as
turning the stock strap upside down. In a few instances I have removed a
small amount of the UNthreaded area from the bottom of the plastic hold-down
knobs. In one instance I made a stainless steel strap...but that bike had
a deeper than usual tool tray.
The LARGER (28AH) battery, Panasonic LC-XB1228P (or close to that), does not generally fit the R65, GS,
/5.
The smaller battery for our other models is 17 to 20 ampere
hours.
These batteries also fit the classic K bikes, some K bikes can use either size.
NOTE: The 28 AH Panasonic batteries are narrower than stock wet cell (flooded)
batteries, and you can, if you want, add a side
spacer of wood or?, or not. It is a small amount taller. Because of that small height increase, and depending on your bike, you may
or may not have
to do one or the other or two of the following:
1. Turn the existing battery top holder, upside down
2. Sand the BOTTOMS of the battery plastic hold down knobs....you will see that the threads do not start
immediately, so this is of zero consequence. If you do this, do it squarely.
3. Make a top strap (less likely with #1 being tried).
These VRLA or AGM type batteries come fully charged if fresh.
No matter what brand you get, be sure that the negative and positive terminals are on the correct side,
and forward, not at the back side. The
self-discharge rate is quite low when the battery is new, so even if the battery sat for 3 months, it is still
nearly fully charged. Probably sits around 12.6-12.7 Volts. EVEN THOUGH
these supposedly come fully charged, I suggest that you check the charge.
Airheads: Adjusting the VR, if you have one that is adjustable: Measure ONLY AT the battery terminals themselves. If you have a dash voltmeter you are probably going to want to NOTE what it reads in comparison to the digital voltmeter you are using at the battery, probably 0.3 volt less. Be sure, of course, that your grounds, cables, brushes, wiring inside the timing chest, etc....are all properly tight and all grounds properly grounded...before adjusting the regulator. BE SURE you do that!
For Airheads:
Refer to the diode
board article in this website for LOTS more information.
Room temperature, try for
14.3-14.4 volts for the VR setting as a decent compromise,
although up to 14.9 is OK on the Panasonic battery, but
13.9 and under is a bad
idea. As soon as the engine warms, the heat rises into the regulator, and the voltage starts going down
a tenth or three, so do it before much heat develops. I start from
a cool engine,
and adjust the regulator after a 1 or 2 minute engine warmup, which is enough to
allow me to go to 4000 rpm or so without harming the engine. I have articles posted on my website and on the airheads website, on the regulators and on the grounding
information. It is a GOOD idea, if you have rubber mounts on the diode board, to change them to aftermarket solid metal
ones before adjusting the regulator. PIA to install, but a really good idea. Motorrad Elektrik and Thunderchild sell the mounts.
RockyPointCycle.com sells adjustable regulators very reasonably
priced.
Setting the regulator without knowing that all is OK...wiring, mounts, diode board, connections,
grounding...etc....is a waste of time.
AIRHEADS: NEVER...EVER....remove the timing chest outer cover without FIRST disconnecting the battery, typically by removing all the wires at the negative post (if only the one big
wire at that post, you can do it at
the speedometer cable bolt, which lug can be modified for easier removal in
future...with the smallest hole snip; be sure to use the washers).
Battery sources:
Ted Porter's Beemershop: Ted likes the Odyssey and
also sealed Interstate batteries,
such as models FAYIX30L and FAYTX20HL...and get the plastic support plate.
(831) 438-1100. 34 Janis Way #E, Scotts Valley, CA open
Tuesday through Saturday.
Very knowledgeable BMW folks here.
WestCo Battery; 1620 Sunkist Street-Unit L; Anaheim, CA 92806;
714-938-5080; FAX 714-938-5307. http://www.westcobattery.com
http://www.gotbatteries.com
small vertical
terminal, a-la-WestCo.
800-551-5645 Portable Power Systems
Yuasa, sealed battery, for Harley Davidsons, about 1 inch shorter
335 CCA #YIX30L Yuasa, Allan Kohler 800-538-3627 (I have NOT
confirmed this information).
Yuasa has a Y60N28AL-B battery, is OK. NOT the YB18.
Some have used 'Garden tools' batteries. Be careful with flooded types, if
no overflow/vent tube, you could see the fumes from the caps rot out your steel
pan seat, ETC., over many years. The typical garden battery used is
size U-1.
http://batteryweb.com ask for
Ric, conventional terminals
There are a number of other sources. Be careful about what you purchase.
I can't list all of these sources. Ask about batteries on
such as the Airheads LIST; the K bikes LIST, and so on.
BATTERY CHARGERS:
There is nothing wrong about using a common
battery charger, NON-smart type, if used properly. This
applies to any of the battery types....absorbed mat (now called
Valve Regulated...), flooded (slosh), sealed, etc.
NON-smart type chargers can often be had quite CHEAPLY, and they
are perfectly adequate for many of you. BUT.....if
you store your bike for long periods of time (all Winter?), and
you ignore the bike during storage, you do NOT want a common type
(non-smart) charger left turned on continuously. Nothing wrong
with turning on a common LOW output non-smart type once a month,
typically overnight, less for the Panasonic type batteries.
The Smart chargers are called SMART because (of many other things they MIGHT do)
they recharge a battery to a reasonably proper higher initial voltage (many are
too low though). That higher voltage (which they call
initialization, not the same as my use of the term in this article) is NEEDED to recharge the battery fully.
Once that voltage is reached they automatically
drop the charging voltage to one or two lower levels, the final level is usually called the
Float Level or Maintenance Level of charging...which is just enough to maintain the charged condition. For
flooded batteries, the fluid use is typically negligible in constant Smart
Charger usage. In that respect, and because the SMART chargers can be left turned on all the time, the battery is slightly better off
than being recharged manually now and then. Some of this is because flooded batteries,
especially, tend to lose a fair amount of charge every month, day, hour, that they just sit
there...and this happens FASTER as the temperature the bike is subjected to, rises. So, this
effect is more important in quite hot weather. ALL
batteries lose charge by themselves, with nothing connected to
them. The self-discharge rate of ALL batteries RISES WITH
TEMPERATURE. You cannot expect full life out of a
premium battery like the Odyssey if you store the battery where
it is over 90°F, for many months. Once in a great while
someone asks about what to do if the bike is stored for a few
YEARS. Best would be to sell or give away the battery.
Second best is not practical, it is to put it into your
refrigerator (NOT freezer) and charge it every 6 months.
Third best, and most practical, is to fill to highest level line
with distilled water (if a flooded type that can have water
added), and then connect a smart charger to it, and don't worry.
SPECIAL note on Smart
Chargers:
Smart Chargers vary in design.
SOME have safety features that can cause you a mess of confusion and some
problems, if you don't know about what I am going to tell you
here. Some of these chargers will have NO OUTPUT, therefore NO
CHARGING!!.....unless the battery they are connected to....has at least some
voltage (often maybe 8 or greater) to begin with, and that voltage needed varies with the manufacturer and
model. IF your battery is drained very considerably, or is
dead, and your Smart Charger does NOT start to charge that battery, you have NO
CHOICE but to use some other type of charger on that battery (or
jumper to another battery for a few seconds), until the battery
terminal voltage rises enough for the Smart Charger to recognize it and turn
itself on! Of course, the battery could be no good, but it will not
hurt to try a conventional charger on the battery for awhile. For a
very dead battery, it usually takes only seconds of any other type of charger,
even a momentary connection (best with a series lamp or other resistance) to a
car battery....to put just enough of a charge into your bike battery to allow it
to trigger the Smart Charger immediately afterwards.
For folks that commute in cities such that the STOCK Airhead electrical system does not keep the battery
fully charged, and you wisely connect a battery charger every night, you PROBABLY should have a
Smart charger, with an easy to plug-in setup. In fact, an easy attaching
method is a good idea. The BMW accessory plug and socket works just fine for that
purpose. Be advised that there is supposed to be a 8 ampere fuse in that
plug wiring. Mind cautions about the sockets possibly
grounding the battery withOUT the battery ground wire at the speedometer bolt
being connected. That can cause you problems in
removing the front cover. Because of that, I recommend ONLY
insulated jacks, and the black negative wire go to the FRAME, NOT
THE BATTERY.
As a general rule, the largest size of battery charger that might
be used safely with your airhead's battery is one rated at 6 to
20 amperes. A smaller one is better for most folks. Even one as
small as 1/4th ampere is often OK...but NOT always. One that is too small may
well not recharge the battery if it is well-drained from a day's commuting and
you use the bike again the next morning. The smallest
chargers may well not fully initialize the battery either.
That is, a simple small 0.25 ampere wall-wort battery charge
might NEVER be able to raise the battery voltage above, perhaps,
14.2 or whatever. Most small motorcycle type chargers are rated at 0.5 to 3 amperes. NOTE that most of the various types of chargers, especially the cheap 'wall-wart' ones,
have a built in circuit breaker, that tends to constantly recycle if the battery charge level is quite
low....or a cell or two are somewhat, or more than somewhat, failing....these WalWarts tend to fail from that sort of usage.
There are, or can be, a relatively important problem with larg
size chargers. Depending on the particular design, they MIGHT
TEND TO overcharge the battery if left turned on for too long. It
is NOT the current output CAPABILITY that causes this (at least
up to the 12 ampere size, generally), but the internal resistance
of the charger is lower, and so the output voltage also TENDS, by
design, to be a wee bit higher, thus this type of charger TENDS
to overcharge. NOT ALL will do this. If the charger is vigorous
enough (not all will do this), then enough current flows into the
battery, the battery will get hot, plates may buckle, the acid
mixture and reaction causes hydrogen gas and water vapor to
escape, especially on the open vented flooded batteries. Putting
such a charger on a sealed battery might well cause internal
pressures that could cause a mini-explosion. I think 10% of
capacity, in amperes, is OK as a maximum for INITIAL FEW MINUTES
of charging. For the Odyssey, you can initialize at up to
50% of AH rating!
The problem is that SOME of these chargers are probably
designed such that their output current does not taper off ENOUGH, as the battery terminal
voltage rises from the charging. This is NOT universally true! I have a 10 ampere charger, that works just fine. Mine has an adjustable timer on it, a handy
feature, but not really needed for most purposes. If I connect this charger to one of my airheads
in my garage once a month, it shows a 6 ampere charge for less than half a minute, and is
down to 4 amperes within a few minutes, then slowly tapers to under 1 ampere as the battery is
recharged. That type of operation is just fine. You don't want 5 or
more amperes of charging for very long, minutes is usually OK. Typically a recharge takes an hour or two after a couple of months of flooded battery
sitting. An absorbed mat battery (AGM or VRLA) (WestCo/Panasonic/Digi-Key/Yuasa...ETC.)
will USUALLY recharge far more quickly, as its internal
self-discharge is quite low, even in hot weather. A Smart
Charger might take overnight for any type, depending on the
ampere rating of the smart charger.
IF you use a common, NON-smart charger, MONITOR now and then the battery voltage.
If it is a larger type, monitor that the current does not stay up too high for
very long. When the voltage reaches the fully charged amount, turn the charger off. Don't allow the battery to get
much over baby bottle
warmth. The range of voltage depends on the battery type, and the temperature of the battery.
For temperatures near freezing, that voltage might be 14.5 on a flooded battery, and 14.9 on an
absorbed mat battery. For 70°F temperature, the voltages will be
somewhat lower.
I like 14.3 on a flooded, 14.3-14.7 on an AGM...as a general rule, in any
reasonable temperature.
If you use a larger battery charger, many will have a meter that monitors the charging CURRENT. It is OK for that current to be
initially rather high....in some cases half the AH rating of the
battery......IF!! ... that current level drops within a FEW minutes to
under 4, and then slowly downward. This applies to both sizes of the airhead batteries. The rule
of thumb that a battery should not be charged at a rate over 10% of its ampere-hour rating is a
good rule, but not an absolutely strict one; as 15% is usually
fine, and even somewhat more for short periods. What they
don't tell you is that the so-called 10% rule is for
'continuous'. If your larger battery charger is
still delivering 3 or more amperes and the terminal voltage of
the battery is already over 14, then you want to be
cautious about using that charger. NOTE that these currents
are for already in use batteries, not for initializing a new one.
The use of old-fashioned service station quick chargers (typically 75 amperes and higher) is
absolutely forbidden on bike batteries ...and is not good for large car batteries either. Huge input
currents will cause spot heating in the battery, and plate buckling, steam, quite possibly the battery
will be destroyed, and rather quickly.
CAUTION: NEVER, EVER!!!, remove the cell tops of a flooded battery during the time the
electricity to the charger is turned on, or you intend to mess with the wires, power on or not.
Hydrogen gas is emitted from these batteries, and sometimes a bubble will be given off unnoticeably, not just when the
battery is noticeably 'gassing'. One spark from the leads, and you could be covered with
acid...the battery could, literally, explode. That acid will likely damage your
eyes, very seriously. Wearing of protective goggles at all times is a very good idea. Goggles are very cheap compared to one's
eyesight!! The acid in batteries is sulfuric, and that acid attacks skin
quickly, and will destroy your eyesight!!!
If you install a battery that is the flooded type, and the only venting is a hole in each cap, or the top area, and there is no plastic tube leading downward....or some similar method, corrosive gases will eat out your metal seat pan, or do other damage in the area. I am NOT in favor of anything but sealed batteries in K bikes, where the FI computer is located above the battery....due to potential damage from fumes.
***NOTE: Excessive charging, over a long period of time, even if the excess charging is of a rather low level, will slowly cause oxidation of the inter-cell connections, eating them away, and reducing battery life. This is very much unknown for whatever reason.
SULFATION: Usually when a battery is well sulfated, from age or being discharged for a long time, the battery is no good, and cannot be 'fixed'. There ARE exceptions. If you want to try to de-sulfate a battery, you can TRY by discharging it, if not already, to about 10.3 to 10.5 (the Odyssey type maybe about 11.0). THEN, recharge with a substantial sized charger, to around 14.7 volts at room temperature. The charger should be at least 6 ampere rating, but not over 20!!! Some chargers are advertised as having PULSE MODES (or similar), and that they will de-sulfate even a quite battery. NOT TRUE. The pulse mode is a BIT better, but not worth a big premium.
Here is some information that
you more nerdy types might like to have:
Batteries deteriorate, fully charged or not.
Deterioration varies with temperature and type of battery. In general,
every 15°F ABOVE a nominal 77°F the battery is stored or operated at, will HALVE
the life of the battery.
Batteries also self-discharge. In GENERAL, a flooded battery loses upwards of 1% of its charge per day in Summer temperatures. For an AGM, the loss is much lower, perhaps 1-3% per MONTH.
When you charge any battery type, the
conversion is not 100% efficient. For flooded batteries, you must
put into the battery about 15-20% more electrical energy than the battery will
give back. This 15-20% is converted to HEAT in the battery during
this charging. For AGM's, the conversion is more efficient,
perhaps as low as a 5% loss.
There is a peculiarity with Gel
and AGM batteries, that deals with a mathematical function called Peukerts
Exponent. No need to get into the math, here. What it means is
that Gel and AGM batteries can be discharged (there is a recharge effect too) at
a higher % of capacity rate than flooded batteries with a minimal loss of total
capacity. Let me explain that a tad more. If you have a
fully charged battery of any type, the battery has an ampere-hour
rating. A 28 AH battery SHOULD, theoretically, deliver 280 amperes
for 6 minutes, 28 amperes for 1 hour; or, 2.8 amperes for 10 hours, or 0.28
amperes for 100 hours....and so on. However, batteries are less
efficient as current drain goes UP. Thus, a battery typically LOSES
capacity as the drain RATE increases. The AGM and GEL
batteries are MUCH LESS affected by this, than the flooded types.
The Peukerts value is LESS for the AGM and
GEL, compared to the flooded type. THUS, these new-fangled
batteries can deliver large cranking power.
Some
PRACTICAL advice on battery voltages for charging, and float
charging:
(Read all the previous information from the
beginning of this article, if you have not already!)
Although I have given you rather specific advice in this long
article on various voltages, the following is PRACTICAL advice,
since voltage regulators on the various motorcycles will vary
considerably...or, you may want to know what is practical for
setting yours if it is adjustable. You might be interested
in what settings are practical and useful for the three major
battery types; and, a few other things.
If the battery is at ROOM
temperature (70°F approximately), then I would be OK with you
setting your VR for 14.3 volts, before the engine heats the VR. For constant float
charging...in off-season or overnight storage situations, I would
be OK with 13.6 volts.
These above voltages will probably result in a decently longer battery life,
and slightly less life for your incandescent lamps, which will be
a bit brighter.
On a really practical basis, ANY of these batteries will be
""reasonably"" OK with the motorcycle voltage regulator set for 13.8
to 14.5 volts under most any temperature you measure the battery
at. For floating charge, perhaps 13.2-13.8 volts.
In all situations, all types of batteries, after a battery is
charged, and the charger disconnected...and this applies to after
the engine is shut off too....>>>after a few hours of nothing
connected as a load but maybe a clock, the battery should be 12.6
to 12.7 volts. If the battery/bike has been sitting for
some days, etc....then, if under 12.5, be sure to recharge the
battery.
Additional information....and
somewhat different viewpoint, etc:
http://www.largiader.com/articles/battery.html
I do not agree 100% with Anton, in the above article, but I highly recommend
reading it, and my nitpicks are hardly worth mentioning.
How to Load
Test a Battery:
I have been asked now and then about how one goes about load testing a battery. If you do not own a Load Tester (Harbor Freight sells them), then you must improvise, which is certainly OK. The load testing procedure for a formal Load Tester (or, improvised method) is to FIRST be sure the battery is fully charged....a terminal voltage minimum 14 before disconnecting/turning-off the charger, is a good voltage to use.
Let the battery sit an hour or two.
Connect the load tester and IMMEDIATELY adjust it such that when it will provide a load of 1/2 of the battery's rated CCA. If you do not know that value, then use THREE times the rated ampere-hours (AH) of the battery). Apply the load quickly, monitoring the voltage with a digital meter at the battery terminals. Be careful of the connections, the load is great, and you want the battery terminals, NOT the load tester terminals connection point, to be where the voltmeter is attached. That avoids errors. 15 seconds of the load applied should show, load tester still connected, a minimum of 9.8 volts, if the battery temperature is approximately 20°C.....this is approximately normal pleasant room temperature (68°F).
If you do NOT own a load tester, the normal quickie way of doing this job, and it is perfectly adequate a method, is to remove the fuel or ignition (ground it properly) from the engine so the engine will not start. Charge and then monitor the battery voltage as above. Crank the engine for 10 to 20 measured seconds. At the end of the time period, still cranking, note the voltage....again, 9.8 is the minimum.
Revisions:
initial upload 02/04/2003
03/04/2005: Update entire article to reflect latest information and
include all prior revisions, greatly expand information.
04/13/2005: note, on Advanced, possibly raising
prices
05/03/2005: REMOVE all information on that company, due to
non-responsiveness
11/26/2005: update entire article
11/29/2005: update digikey shipping information
02/13/2006: Add information on WestCo's BB brand
03/02/2006: update on Digikey
12/20/2006: Re-edit entire article
03/21/2007: expand upon charging efficiencies and self discharge losses.
04/15/2007: Additional information on Yuasa and also garden type batteries
10/30/2008: Remove pricing and methods of purchasing from Digikey, update
a few other places (minor)
03/31/2009: Update the article entirely, clarifying some things, reducing
ugly color changes, etc.
06/05/2009: Modest updates for clarity and add information on
load testing and change title slightly to accommodate that.
03/30/2010: Clean up appearance; make minor updates for
clarity.
07/21/2010: Add practical advice on voltages section.
03/03/2011: Clean up article, add emphasis, straighten out
confusion on voltages.
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